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ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Zmax » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:17 pm

https://vimeo.com/147794161


They will be at the 2016 PGA show booth 1773. Unit is the first LM to combine radar tracking with high speed cameras to detect both club and ball.

Does anybody know what data is measured and what is estimated? Release date and pricing? Which software is available for it?
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Zmax » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:33 pm

Those are claims of what it will measure. Looks pretty good. Claims it will measure spin and spin axis. I wonder if they will integrate with PG also.
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby psgolfer » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:26 am

From what I've read, here's a bit of a summary:

Expected release cost - $3,500 - $4,000
Expected release date - March(ish)/April
Expected Sim Software - TGC (Maybe PG - haven't heard any rumblings)

Nobody in the community has seen or tested the unit yet. Looks like the PGA show will be the grand unveiling.

Looks to rival GC2, but who knows. I hope it's not another skytrak marketing fiasco. Hopefully they learned not to try and bait and switch with their existing and potential customers.
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Zmax » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:59 am

Price is not bad. Would be smart if they hook up with PG. Cheaper than a new GC2 but same price as used GC2's. Should be interesting.
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Mthunt » Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:35 am

They claim to measure everything a GC2 with HMT measures. If it does, that's crazy.

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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby HoganWoods » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:11 am

Mthunt wrote:They claim to measure everything a GC2 with HMT measures. If it does, that's crazy.


WOW! Where did you see that?

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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Zmax » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:00 am

Mthunt wrote:They claim to measure everything a GC2 with HMT measures. If it does, that's crazy.


I don't think it measures club face and path, only club speed. I can see it estimating club face though.
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Zmax » Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:58 am

They are open to integration with other simulation software....

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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Mthunt » Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:58 pm

HoganWoods wrote:
Mthunt wrote:They claim to measure everything a GC2 with HMT measures. If it does, that's crazy.


WOW! Where did you see that?



It was discussed on another forum. The camera does the ball and the radar does the club. It's a lot of talk right now but it'll be launched at the PGA show and I'm sure par2pro will have videos posted immediately.

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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Zmax » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:53 pm

Got an email from Ernest Sports. Looks like it's now available for pre-orders.

ES16 Tour is one week away from its debut at the PGA Show and is now available for purchase! The first-ever combination of Doppler and camera tracking technology will allow ball speed, club speed, smash factor, spin rate, launch angle, launch direction and spin axis to be directly measured rather than calculated, providing the most accurate readings available. The ES16 is making quality and accuracy affordable at a price of only $4,000.00 + $300.00 for software.

Today through the end of the PGA Show (1/29), we are waiving the software cost ($300.00) for those putting a $500.00 deposit down on the ES16.

Want peace of mind that your ES16 will be an investment for years to come? Ask about our Unconditional Repair/Replace program.

Give us a call today at (770) 734-0413 to place your order and save $300.00 on software.
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Tretee » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:06 am

I guess the most important and unknown parameter is, will this be like a GC2 + club head speed or a ST + club head speed.
For that money it better be like GC2.

Based on the info that you need to tell it about the club you plan to use so it can trigger the cameras properly to catch the ball is suspicious and makes it sound more like a ST without the line laser. (Rapsodo has a patent on that)
To me it looks like those of us that have GC2's will use them next year as well. Even if we get an ES16 for free :D
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Zmax » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:32 pm

I agree. With both Doppler and 2 cameras, the data captured should be very accurate as long as you can get pass the club selection requirement and the $4k+ price. Yesterday, some lucky guy snatched a used GC2 on Ebay for $2800.
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby goatbarn » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:03 pm

That "GC2" ended up being a pre-GC2 model that doesn't have working bluetooth...

Someone else sold one of these models just recently and said they were able to update it via Foresight to a working GC2.

Seems the pre-GC2 model is called the GC100 or something like that. Ball manufacturers using them back in the day for quick numbers on test balls, I would guess.
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Zmax » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:10 pm

goatbarn wrote:That "GC2" ended up being a pre-GC2 model that doesn't have working bluetooth...

Someone else sold one of these models just recently and said they were able to update it via Foresight to a working GC2.

Seems the pre-GC2 model is called the GC100 or something like that. Ball manufacturers using them back in the day for quick numbers on test balls, I would guess.



Really? I didn't know those even existed. Foresight will add BT (GC2a) to it for about $500 correct? That's still a good deal for winner of that auction.
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby JohnMeyer » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:37 pm

Another guy won one for $3000 off eBay today which is one that was former Nike that had been upgraded.

Hopefully we see a few more coming over and giving PG a try.
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Zmax » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:26 pm

Another one? Wow. Maybe start a thread on used GC2 deals?
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Postby Shankygolf » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:45 pm

A fellow pro in the Uk just got a used gc2 on ebay for £4800 with software, seems people are willing to let them go at reasonable prices. Just need to look out for the right deal. I got my gc2 secondhand at just over 1 year old at £3750 so bargains are out there
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby SwingLeft » Fri May 06, 2016 9:14 pm

I received my ES16 late today. I haven't had much time to use it yet and since I have to work tomorrow it will have to wait.
But here is a few pics.
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Re: ES16 Launch Monitor

Postby Zmax » Fri May 06, 2016 9:31 pm

Thanks for posting the pics. Looking forward to your review. We'll get you on the JNPG beta soon.
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